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I'm not sure what "power" you think I have. I rarely vote to close questions. But I do flag, and do down-vote. Isn't that as democratic as it gets?


> Isn't that as democratic as it gets?

Why should you be able to flag for close, downvote and get to delete all at once? It's basically all the power there is, especially bad if you own a tag badge. We have enough people to separate those tasks, it'd definitely reduce one person's ability to do harm.


Everyone is able to flag for close, delete or downvote (above a very small point requirement—125, I thing). I cannot delete questions or answers on any whim. I can vote to to delete after a certain threshold of low-score passes. I don't see what is so problematic with this, as any user with a little persistence can reach this goal.


How is "persistence" the correct characteristic based on which to select who gets to moderate? I'm also well aware of the thresholds, I don't think one user should just have only one integer value based on which one gets all the privileges.


Because someone who is active in a community and has high confidence by the community (= high points), it is more likely that this person is capable of moderating this community better than someone who is not familiar with the subjects of the community.


That's the problem though, isn't it?

> high confidence by the community = high points

High confidence at answering questions. We don't get to vote on moderation, closed as dupe, deletion etc. Karma is only a weak indicator of being a good moderator. Sure they may know the subject well, but that's not reflective of a good and empathetic moderator.

Frustration with this is one of the main reasons I just stopped logging in and participating. SE is now static web search results.


I guess everyone sees the issue from their own point of view, of which there are many, and there isn’t one magic bullet to solve them all. I stopped participating because of the push to be more “welcoming”, even to those that put “it’s happening to me too, what I do???” as answers or those that can’t be bothered to search for anything, just want a solution HERE AND NOW. SO used to be a lot more strict than it is now, but people are complaining a lot more these days than before. That, too, says something about the community.


> I stopped participating because of the push to be more “welcoming”

Because it's somehow hard to be welcoming? I guess it is for some people and now instead of a snarky comment they're just voting down, making everyone feel much better (/s).

> as answers or those that can’t be bothered to search for anything, just want a solution HERE AND NOW.

If only privileged users on SO closed such questions, but they don't. People are very rightfully complaining.

> but people are complaining a lot more these days than before. That, too, says something about the community.

It's always fun to blame users/someone else I guess.


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We ban users who attack others like this, regardless of what the other commenter did. We've hard to warn you about this before. Please don't do this again.

Please do review the site guidelines and use HN in the intended spirit: kind, thoughtful, curious conversation.

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Apologies, I did step over the line, but please consider the entire conversation.


What did I get out of context? Or do you just feel finally called out?


Please don't perpetuate tedious tit-for-tat spats on HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


> has high confidence by the community

Could just be that you've gamed the system.


I have 50,000+ points on Stack Overflow. Could be that I gamed the system, yes, but that would mean the system is rotten to the core. If that is the case, why are people so emotional about it?


Same as Facebook, Google etc. (Tho not it has to be said HN) It got network share to get people on board. Then once they got too big to lose they dialed down the competency requirements for those operating it.




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